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Danielle Smith is invoking the Alberta Sovereignty Act for the first time. Here’s why

After weeks of speculation, Premier Danielle Smith announced on November 27 Alberta’s intention to challenge the proposed Clean Electricity Regulations, an ambitious federal climate policy aimed at creating a net-zero electricity grid by 2035 that she argues encroaches on provincial jurisdiction.

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Thank for contributing to Hub Forum. Be sure to check out Mark Hill’s article on Canada’s collapsing climate consensus:

8th December 2023 at 3:38 pm
Kim Morton

Trudeau and his ilk are globalists, that have no regard for a Canadian identity, and most especially fear a rich and independent West.
I wish BC had a leader that would stand up for taxpayers. But alas, we have a freeloader, elected by freeloaders, whose only real concern is government union employees and the industries they have created for themselves by feeding off the citizens that for one reason or another can’t properly look after themselves. The rest of us are just cash cows to be milked.

8th December 2023 at 10:06 am

Would you consider, at least, focusing your vague but certain rants on the topic at hand? Regardless, this modest discussion forum should be free from this kind of valueless “contribution”. In short, you are polluting the discourse. Can you save these zingers for YouTube comments or other existing cesspools of unhinged ravings?
Thank you in advance on behalf of everyone that is interested in the potential rich and good faith discussions that The Hub is inviting us to engage in.

8th December 2023 at 10:26 am
Paul H.

Your comment is not helpful. I find the majority of comments posted in this forum make for worthwhile reading and provide an excellent overview of Canadian’s opinions on the subjects at hand. Please let others feel free to comment as they see fit. Comments such as yours stifle the free flow of opinions expressed by others.

8th December 2023 at 10:52 am

I am clearly only commenting on. this. comment. only.
To be crude, a single “single turd in the pool” does not make for enjoyable swimming.
I doubt very much that my comment or ones like it will “stifle the free flow of opinions”. It would be ironic as my intention is the opposite.
It is a tricky business trying to create a quality forum.

8th December 2023 at 11:58 am
Michael F

I agree with Rob. There are a few thoughtful posters here interested in engaging in debate on the issues of the day. I don’t agree with many but that is the point of reasoned, thoughtful debate. And then there are some commenters that need to be called out for their baseless partisan rants that offer nothing to the conversation.

8th December 2023 at 11:16 am

The federal Liberals, if nothing else, are consistent in one thing – their desire to swim in that Section 92 constitutional lane. Much like their failing efforts to reverse the effects of climate change, they will never get away with imposing an emissions cap on a vital sector of our national economy. The courts will rule against them – again.

They are oblivious to the fact that the solutions to reducing our carbon footprint, as with everything else in the industrialized world, will come from the free market – not government edicts. But that won’t stop them from trying and, as they drive away much needed investment and bankrupt the nation in the process, well, they’ll see that as our problem, not theirs.

8th December 2023 at 11:52 am
Michael F

A large majority of Canadians want action on climate change. It consistently polls as a top concern for Canadians. Canada is no different from the majority of other developed countries in imposing a carbon levy on fossil fuels. Now Canada is taking the next step in capping emissions after doing a lengthy consultation process.

I can see that the Liberals are starting to frame the debate around the next election and that this will be one of the signature policies they will campaign on. Good luck to Skippy if his only response is to appeal to climate change deniers and a call for rolling back the carbon levy and any progress made on cleaning up our industrial base and infrastructure.

8th December 2023 at 12:19 pm

Michael, might I refer you to the top energy priorities of industrialized nations around the world, including Canada, as revealed by the Visual Capitalist:

Energy security, affordability, and cleaner energy were the top three for Canadians – reducing carbon emissions didn’t even register. I will say, though, that Canadian energy producers are leading the way on lower carbon emissions – that likely a significant factor in Canadians identifying the other three as their priorities.

If that doesn’t persuade you, then ask yourself whether the world should come to Canada and our abundant clean oil & gas energy or seek out those from conflict nations?

In any event, time to put away the “Skippy” and other denigrating remarks. They don’t assist your efforts in winning over the minds of others to your point of view.

8th December 2023 at 1:08 pm
Michael F

When you look at the global response clean energy and reducing carbon makes up almost 50%.

8th December 2023 at 5:34 pm
Richard Courtemanche

The whole Liberals climate change program is a sham. The narcissist gave his soul to Schwab and won’t back down. If only provincial premiers worked together against Satan!

8th December 2023 at 11:25 am
A. Chezzi

I read the article with interest until I noticed the name of Sonya Savage attached to it. I have to ask myself if I am predisposed to disagree with anything coming from the Con camp especially if it is penned by the UCP?
With that in mind, I think that a province so tied to fossil fuel has to check its own bias. What happens in Alberta does effect the rest of the country. Climate change will not reside just in Alberta. Borders do not stop climate change. It is a national crisis. Can the province depend on industry to clean itself and can the province which is so dependent on fossil fuel for money be trusted to regulate the industry? What value does Alberta put on clean air, the health of its citizens, its agricultural industry or the rest of Canada?
It seems that Smith is ready to fight anything which Ottawa proposes. In an interview yesterday, she mentioned several times her “willingness” to work with Ottawa as long as Ottawa went along with Alberta’s plan. That is not co operative federalism as she likes to say so often. She is often over the top in her presentations. Calling the Stephen Guilbeault a menace and a threat to unity is typical of Con hype but not productive. It may just be playing for the base but as a journalist she knows words matter and she knows how harmful they can be to meaningful discussion. Sadly, she and her federal counterpart are harming Canadian institutions and increasing polarization. In the long run, it will not serve Alberta well.

8th December 2023 at 8:58 am
Alice Barr

To be upfront, I am strongly conservative, just one year ago I was a very proud Alberta citizen (I now live in Manitoba), I am not a supporter of Ms. Smith but did support Ms Savage. I am all for clean air and a healthy climate.

My main concern with all climate policies is that China and India continue to build coal powered electrciticty plants at a rate that negates any improvements Canada could possibly make. We make ourselves poorer by increasing all costs while these two countries continue to emit unabated. In addition, there are many countries that would benefit from a stable grid that uses natural gas and LNG to create electricity. We are trying to keep poor countries poor by telling them to use renewable energies for power.

Then there is the polluting effects of building the solar and wind power from mining for the products needed to make them, to should slave labour in the Congo to mine cobalt for batteries.

Technology will be the solution to a global problem (climate change is not a National problem).

8th December 2023 at 9:32 am
H. Worden

You got it right

8th December 2023 at 9:43 am
Micchael F

Rich western countries have done their share of polluting and now they need to lead by example and drive the marketplace for clean energy. The USA was the world’s biggest polluter for decades.

8th December 2023 at 11:18 am
H Worden

Well !! You seem to think you know it all, so I ask, What is your opinion of Guilbeault& his boss, Trudeau are you thinking that they too know it all ?

8th December 2023 at 9:41 am
Michael F

On a recent Canadaland podcast the Alberta Sovereignty Act was referred to as a Post-It note on the Constitution. It’s political theatre. Nothing more than Smith making hay for her base.

8th December 2023 at 12:09 pm