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Enough with committees and consultations. The CBC needs a mandate with teeth

What is needed is for the government to define what it expects the CBC to deliver in a way that is both clear and doable. The United Kingdom does this through the Royal Charter, which is, in effect, a contract between the BBC and the government. It specifies what the BBC will do over the next ten years, along with a commitment for the necessary funding. It is a mandate with teeth.

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The Hub Staff

Richard Stursberg states ” the government simply needs to make up its mind about the future of the corporation. It needs to produce a mandate that is similar to the Royal Charter, outlining the principles that should guide the CBC’s evolution.” What are your thoughts on this comparison to the United Kingdom? What are your thoughts on the CBC’s future?

17th January 2024 at 7:09 am
Arnold hensen

TheC.B.C. is / was a valuable social institution within Canadian society. Having travelled nationwide as a travelling musician, and dwelling throughout this grande nation for the last forty plus years, it is a unifying although often frivolous source of information, with local outlets including clips as they see fit of suspect value, like this mornings focus on perry the peacock in the local Kitchener feed…none the less over the last few years the obvious bias towards the COVID mandates, and now the absence of any information regarding the trucker trials indicate a bias and skewed focus, which I find obvious when coupled with the new tone set by ian hanomansing on cross country checkup, rex murphies old beat, where at one time hanomansing gleefully baited antivacxers, and delighted in gutting them live on national radio, the word has obviously come down to respect the common man and his participation in this country and government overreach into society i.e. firing non compliant medical staff, and the ensuing emergency room crisis due to resultant staffing levels. There is plenty the CBC could and indeed must do, but first of all it must be honest and fair, and not simply the voice of the dominant political party

17th January 2024 at 7:53 am
Paul Attics

I was about to assert that the CBC and the LPC are not aligned but I think that they actually are, just indirectly via a shared and limited perspective (urban, progressive, highly formally educated, secular, overly anti-fossil fuels, etc.) and not via a secret, coordinated, globalist, and dastardly cabal as many fellow citizens would have us believe.

17th January 2024 at 8:38 am
Michael F

I agree with your assertion but I wouldn’t categorize progressives as haveing a ‘limited perspective’. The liberals have always been a ‘big tent’ party. But yes they have had problems with their paternal nanny state approach at times.

17th January 2024 at 7:36 pm
LWJ

We do not need the CBC in English Canada

17th January 2024 at 7:15 am
Paul Attics

FYI, the Hub Staff is asking for thoughts.

17th January 2024 at 8:10 am
Martin Davidson

The CBC caters to an ever shrinking audience but many Canadians consider it to be fundamental to maintaining the Canadian identity. Make CBC a subscription-based service and stop the government funding. Those that watch it or claim it’s still an important, relevant institution can directly support it. The rest of us can continue to ignore it, knowing that it is not consuming government funds that would be much better allocated elsewhere.

17th January 2024 at 9:58 am
RJKWells

There once may have been a purpose for the CBC, but that time has long since passed. The experience of living and working in communities across Canada’s Arctic for five years (at a time long before the internet) taught me that the only place for government television and radio is in our history books. It failed Canadians in carrying out its mandate then, and that trend continues today. Yet we here we are, continuing to pay and prop up this defective model in what is best described as an escalated commitment towards a failing course of action.

If the will among supporters to maintain the CBC as their source of information and entertainment is really that strong, then a shift to the PBS ‘member-supported’ funding model is in order, not the adoption of some ‘Royal Charter’ from the United Kingdom. The latter is merely a regurgitated ball and chain, the only change being a spiffy new moniker that allows the CBC to maintain its grip on our wallets. Canadians are smarter than to fall for that tactic.

Let its executives and 7,500 employees draw their funding from those who actually choose to tune in and consume what they produce, and keep their hands out of the pockets of the vast majority of Canadians who do not.

17th January 2024 at 9:37 am
Bob DeShane

DEFUND THE CBC. Regardless what measures are taken to attempt to modify the relationship between the government and the corporation, as Richard Stursberg suggests in “giving it teeth”, the CBC will still be alive and kicking the next time corrupt Liberals assume power, only to reverse all that had been done. Level the playing field with other broadcasters and make competition the rule.

17th January 2024 at 7:39 am
Ernie

Government should not be in the media industry. We should not be spending tax dollars on media. Leave media to supply and demand. Stop dictating what we should or should not watch.
Thanks

17th January 2024 at 9:52 am
Paul Attics

Media is a broad term that means many things. Presumably ‘news media’ is what is meant?
Regardless, investigative journalism should not be left to supply and demand.

17th January 2024 at 10:04 am
Kim Morton

CBC is long past its best before date.
There is no need for a government financed Toronto centric purveyor of fake news and government propaganda. Everywhere in Canada can access either cable or satellite communications these days. Just the bonuses paid to CBC Sr. staff would go a long way to curing the health and living problems our veterans face on a daily basis.

17th January 2024 at 9:59 am
Ian MacRae

I’ve suggested to Pierre Poilievre that that best solution to what to do with the CBC is to give it to First Nations for native language programming. Current government funding would continue for 3 years, during which all facilities would be transitioned to First Nations. Training in technical and on-air functions would also occur in that 3 years. After that, hands off: they can do what they like.

I’ve read that SRC is very popular in Quebec. If Francois Legault wants to take on its operations and funding, go ahead.

Native language entertainment has been identified as a highly useful reconciliatory action.

While PP is at it, he should also cancel the CRTC. As with the CBC, it purpose is no longer relevant to Canada.

17th January 2024 at 9:57 am
Kieth Gray

The CBChas become nothing but a propaganda machine for the Liberal Party. It is taking a massi ve amount of tax dollars nd giving back little in return.

17th January 2024 at 9:54 am
Glen Potter

Defund the bias CBC ASAP !
Nobody watchs this useless network.

17th January 2024 at 8:46 am
Paul

What about CBC Radio One? You did not mention it.

18th January 2024 at 3:02 am
Michael Gamble

Get rid of the CBC, it’s become a mouthpiece for the government and will only get worse as politicians increase their use of it to attempt to brainwash the public into believing their self serving propaganda.

17th January 2024 at 10:41 am
Richard Courtemanche

A publicly-funded media under a corrupt government simply can’t work. No further explanation is required.

17th January 2024 at 10:22 am
Lauraine

So many of the comments written here are based on conspiracies, hole in the wall outlets. lets try for fact based comments.

17th January 2024 at 12:44 pm
Bob

Conspiracies? Im reading through them and see none based on conspiracy, i see many people who see that the CBC has become just a propaganda machine, thats not even a debatable idea, at this late point in the game its a fact. It could have been argued before during the first few months of the plandemic, but not after, everything that followed, they knew the real numbers of deaths and infection rates, knew how hospitals had been told to pad the numbers, for the first time in history, covid was put as the reason for death even if you died from something unrelated. He fell and banged his head, and died from that, (look up Bob Sagat death) but the hospitals put covid on his death warrant because he happened to also have it in his system. They knew how the numbers were being skewed to make the virus seem like it was doing more damage than it was, yet they lied and crammed it down our throats anyways. The CBC single handedly (with the governments money and direct influence) intentionally misguided the people who trust them, pushed the narritive, and pushed the agenda. They knew people needed more time outdoors in the sun, they knew masks didnt work. They knew the effacacy of the vax, and the dangers of it and how many were reporting adverse affects, but that was also never broadcast. they knew most people supported the trucker movement, and knew it was mostly if not entirely peaceful. Canada started a global movement, showing peaceful protesting without violence, just love. But was ANY of that talked about on air? Certainly not. So no, no one is basing this idea off of conspiracy. Perhaps you should look into independent journalism to be reminded how unbiased news reporting is supposed to be.

17th January 2024 at 2:17 pm
Jull

CBC should not be paid by taxpayers to get government propaganda.

17th January 2024 at 10:01 am
Mike Slinger

I’m an 82 year old senior who has listened to CBC Radio … very much less so to watching CBC TV… for 60 plus years. For me Radio #1 and #2 are essential to all Canadians from coast to coast to coast and inland. It is vital link for our nation-supporting population as well as the regional communities small and large that need to feel they “are part of the whole”. Its essential for a multi-lingual, multi-ethnic and multi-cultural population. One major deficiency is the almost tepid lack of a reminder that we are a bi-lingual country. Radio Canada is unique but the broad band CBC radio #1 and #2 doesn’t weave the French fabric into our national conscious mind set.

17th January 2024 at 7:29 am
Austin Brown

We clearly don’t need the cbc funded by liberal tyrannical government, they work against the best interest of Canadians and Canada.

17th January 2024 at 9:51 am
Bruce

Time to cutoff gravey train. Garbage network, let them go out and get their own sponsors. Goes for all our left liberal Canadian media

17th January 2024 at 12:04 pm
Daniel J Vale

I suspect you’ll never see the CBC not acting as the propaganda wing of the Liberal Party; for this reason alone, the institution must not continue to receive public funding. Let the corporation create a business plan to compete on its’ own two feet, by its’ own merits, on the competitive playing field of Canadian media.

17th January 2024 at 8:43 am
John

The CBC has lost its place as the voice of and for all Canadians when it transformed from being that voice to becoming the voice of feminism and political correctness. The left-slanting perspective on events covered in its news broadcasts alone has rendered even that most significant area of its mandate irrelevant.

17th January 2024 at 2:13 pm
Albert Schindler

And therein lies its greatest problem — and regrettably, could be its downfall.

17th January 2024 at 7:25 pm
Leonard Roxon

CBC is complex in nature in its programming. However, there are very serious problems in its funding by taxpayers and the abuse of the same with numerous people in CBC getting big bonuses.

Basic rules of thumb that would make CBC viable and contribute to Canadians are:

1. Stick with salaries and keep bonuses for those who generate funds that make said program self-sufficient. Here I am going to be blunt as Canadians need an organization that is trustworthy and efficient in its operations.
2. Ensure unbiased reporting – ONLY way CBC is ever going to get respect and viewer/listener growth. Right now, the CBC is a pariah, like pigs in the taxpayer’s trough all the time, brownnosing whatever politician would pay them. It is one of the main reasons, why majority of Canadians do not respect CBC any longer as evidenced by its drastically diminished viewership.
3. Radio Canada has proven to be far superior in their programming that all other programming of CBC and is worth funding. It brings an unique perspective in multiple ways, except the news portion, which is garbage.
4. Reporters and Journalists should stick to facts and NOT bombard us with their own warped opinions.
5. Ensure that $ per person across Canada is the same to be equitable to a country with 2 Official languages. Right now the French to English speaking discrepancy in $ per person is astoundingly one sided favouring French. This in itself creates divisive politics, which has been progressively getting worse in Canada.
6. There is way too much fat in CBC salaries for their performance. CBC should get out of news completely. They do not have the credibility of a news organization with journalistic integrity.
7. CBC needs to generate its own revenue base by the quality of programming it produces. If CBC is unable to do so, we should just let the market forces decide the survivability of CBC, instead of subsidizing the CBC with taxpayer’s monies to fatten their already bloated bank accounts.

17th January 2024 at 11:40 am
Paul Attics

Thanks for the thoughtful comment!

Can you provide an example of a news organization that ensures “unbiased reporting” and whose reporters and journalists “stick to facts”?

Journalism is composed of various degrees of fact gathering (relevant data), analysis (connections), and opinion (conclusions). Bias becomes a bigger and bigger factor as one moves from facts to opinion. Even if just limited to fact-based reporting, the selection, ordering, and wording of undisputed facts is an activity infected with bias.

The best antidote to inevitable bias is diversity of good faith thought in a news organization. That is, professional journalists with diverse acknowledged default perspectives (ex. conservative or progressive) doing their best to be on guard for their inevitable biases.

Perhaps the same story, with the same available facts, can be written by two or more journalists and published at the same time?

17th January 2024 at 12:01 pm
Bill

Viva frey comes to mind. Not a government dollar goes to him, hes quite independent and unbiased. Rebel news is also better than most, however they have an obvious bias. But at least they report on the facts, even when it puts their “favorites” in a bad light

17th January 2024 at 2:25 pm
Michael F

News or opinion you happen to agree with does not mean it is unbiased. It means it simply aligns with your political leanings.

17th January 2024 at 7:42 pm
Albert Schindler

If the CBC received only public funds then it could no longer be unbiased in its reporting because it would have to cater to the whims of those who supported it. The solution lies in the CBC still being publicly funded but giving it a strong, unbiased mandate that would serve all Canadians equally.

17th January 2024 at 7:22 pm
Richard Clarke

With all the fake news circulating and with local newspapers failing, a neutral fact based news service is needed more than ever. Culturally a national media device that is not ad dependent can play an important role In linking Canadians. A refined mandate for the 21,St century could result in an important institution to keep the Canada dream alive

17th January 2024 at 8:49 am
Albert Schindler

Yes, yes, yes!

17th January 2024 at 7:27 pm
A. Chezzi

The CBC is a valuable Canadian institution and I agree wholeheartedly, it needs teeth.

17th January 2024 at 12:01 pm
Susan Henwood

Tricky arrangement for UK contract with BBC – but must be worth looking at as guideline.
CBC is too important for Canada not to fund. Superior to commercial networks in so many ways for news.
A commitment from the Government of Canada would assure rogue politicians do not strip it of its voice.

17th January 2024 at 7:09 am
Ian MacRae

Would you pay for it directly, a la NPR or cable channel?

I suspect not.

17th January 2024 at 10:09 am
Bob

I wont ever trust the CBC again, not after what they did during the plandemic, not to mention what they did during the COMPLETELY PEACEFUL trucker rally, and most importantly afterwards once most of the “less gullible and less brainwashed” of us realized they were used as a propaganda machine spreading false and intentionally misleading information, they STILL are not covering or addressing any of this, or many other important topics/information, they are STILL choosing what to show canadians, working as a voice for the government instead a voice of the people. Journalism is long time dead at the CBC. All they are now are corporate mouthpieces. Trudeau is a tyrant and a idiot, freeland is a traitor, and the CBC is thier lapdog, hiding thier true roles from the mainstream public. Pierre pollieve is no different, dont fall for the BS. Theyre both different sides of the same coin. We need a COMPLETE overhaul of all government in Canada, and a complete overhaul of the CBC, or a tyrannical dictatorship we will remain. Democracy has been dead since before my grandparents were born, time to wake up people.

17th January 2024 at 1:59 pm
Michael F

Plandemic? Is this what this site has stooped to?

17th January 2024 at 7:43 pm
Dave

The end of tge cbc aka tge ndp liberal network can’t come soon enough !!!

17th January 2024 at 12:03 pm
Kevin Alexander

It is simply impossible to have a commercially funded media that is without bias. So, how do you make one that is committed to actual reality?

17th January 2024 at 8:23 am
Dennis Denney

The CBC still has a place on the Canadian air waves. But in a scaled down format. I could accept reduced Corporation that separates out Radio Canada a separate Corporation, maintains the Northern Services, Maintains most radio and podcast services. CBC TV services in Southern Canada should be scrapped. Obviously the beauracracy can certainly be downsized. I would like to see a more neutral political and woke flavour. I think the massive Tax payer funded buildings in Toronto and Vancouver are bad for image.

17th January 2024 at 2:34 pm
Norm Keller

Shut CBC down, completely.

Bureaucracies, by their nature shift increasing resources from their intended purpose to fulfilling the agenda of the bureaucracy. In private/capitalist environments, the control/correction is by the investors who object to directions that produce poor investment returns.

IMO, while that is not ideal, it generally imposes a real-world consequence, while government bureaucracies whole mode of operation is in avoiding responsibility.

Government is not a means for the people to address their goals, it is an impediment that sometimes cannot be avoided.

Point to a government that will not bias its efforts towards its own agenda and IMO it will be a first because that’s how we near-chimpanzees operate. We need safeguards against our own nature unless it is demonstrated to map to reality.

CBC has been a festering pool of Marxism for decades and IMO there is no fixing it. Why would we wish to?

17th January 2024 at 2:28 pm
Arthur C Perron

I strongly believe Canada needs a non-partisan news network (both TV and text) with a section for opinions with supporting arguments. No opinions or supporting arguments should be barred but they must be succinctly presented by credible interlocutors.

Adversizing should be limited to government and private sectors.

Management should be of private sector orientation with selection cttee. composed of leaders from both government and private sectors.

PBS or BBC could serve as an examples but two sides of each question should be presented and briefly supported.

17th January 2024 at 1:57 pm
Paul Attics

Obviously, the premise that something needs to change is shared by the Federal government. A clear and specific expectation based on explicit principles is certainly a great starting point.

At least one principle that I would support is:
– Doing what the market will not for items that are of the public good.
Examples:
Popular culture reporting does not. Local arts and culture does.
Providing world news reporting does not. Investigative journalism in Canada does.
Professional sports reporting does not. Local or non-professional sports does.
Serving supper hour community news to urban centers does not. Serving it to rural communities does.

I hope, for the sake of the CBC, that the Minister’s stated intentions to move quickly are proven to be real.

17th January 2024 at 8:20 am
Ian MacRae

I disagree that the federal government wants to do something. They specialize in announcing things that ultimately achieve nothing (or don’t get past the talking stage).

I suspect that the review announcement is to be able to have talking points to oppose Pierre Poilievre’s defund position.

17th January 2024 at 10:08 am
frederick shirtliffe

I believe the cbc is not worth the tax dollars that is put into it.

17th January 2024 at 7:53 pm
Ken East

Nope. “Government” by its nature is insular and no less an elite than the Bay Street folks or the big city arts communities and other specialized interests. Engagement of the folks from Hay River, NWT or Smooth Rock Falls, Ont. and their needs must be the cornerstone of a new mandate discussion for the CBC.

17th January 2024 at 11:31 am
Paul

I don’t own a television, never have, so I cannot comment on that part of the CBC. I do use CBC Radio one some. Not nearly as much as I did 25 years ago. Their programming has become less interesting. Maybe because I am getting too old. Maybe because they lack funding. Maybe they are producing less interesting content.
I was once a very staunch defender of the CBC Radio, now I can almost envision not having it anymore. Almost. It isn’t a desirable future but liveable. Canada would suffer culturally without the CBC, but has been suffering culturally anyway.
The feds could save a billion bucks but I know, for certain, they would just piss it away on something far less useful.

18th January 2024 at 2:57 am
bcampbell325@gmail.com

CBC does a very valuable service with programs like market place,passionate eye, fifth estate etc… They should however , have to submit open financial statements ,so the public can see how their dollars are spent. There is far to much administration and executive expenses that are not open to public scrutiny..

17th January 2024 at 9:21 pm
Carol

I know of no other way to get accurate, almost unbiased information about all parts of the country than from CBC radio and news online. It provides articles about BC issues, indigenous concerns, Atlantic fisheries as well as foreign affairs affecting our population and economy. It is easy to focus on our town, or province,but only CBC keeps me informed about the whole country.

17th January 2024 at 8:41 pm
Albert Schindler

Yes, we do need a strong CBC in Canada! For years — at least until recently — both my radio on television Dials were permanently set on these channels. The problem began when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau came into power and meddled with the mandate that the CBC had and tried to manipulate the CBC Into broadcasting only his quirky liberal viewpoint.

Please, let us not cancel the CBC. Instead, let’s give back to the CBC its original mandate so Canadians can once again feel proud of our famous broadcasting system!

17th January 2024 at 6:59 pm
Shirley Blair

Exactly what might this mandate address? I would only be interested in hearing about what the CBC should do to produce fair and balanced news and commentary. For many years it has functioned as doctrinaire cheer leading for the Liberal Party, evident not only in its niche issues but most disturbingly in the rhetoric, body language, sneers, gasps and smirks of many of the journalists and commentators. I rarely hear a conservative voice to balance off other panelists.

17th January 2024 at 6:41 pm