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The seismic consequences of a second Trump term

If Trump wins, Ukraine will likely face defeat thanks to administration pressure and the end of American support. NATO would not likely last long either. And Canada? We would be so consumed by efforts to keep our economy running in the face of Trumpian tariffs that we would have little time to think of Europe’s woes.

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Thank you for contributing to Hub Forum. For more on American politics and Donald Trump, check out Geoff Russ’ piece on American protectionism: https://thehub.ca/2024-01-26/even-if-trump-loses-is-america-first-trade-protectionism-here-to-stay/

5th February 2024 at 4:20 pm
Mark

I think what will happen once Trump takes over as POTUS, is that war will cease, and the southern border will immediately be shut down. However, this is the problem because the powers that be that want war (to say that war is big business would be a major understatement) are quite powerful, and the safety and health of Trump would certainly be a concern. So the question would still be, “To what lengths will those powers go to keep Trump from taking over the presidency?”.

5th February 2024 at 7:07 am
Nigel Howcroft

You seem not to think the voters will decide the election. Gosh.

5th February 2024 at 8:05 am
Paul Attics

This is an example of the routine projection that MAGA has adopted from their leader. No speculation/fantasizing required, he has well demonstrated the lengths that he would go to remain in office.

It is Trump’s and only Trump’s actions and behavior that have him in the position that he is in. Hopefully, American voters in November do what they have always done up to this point, provide a majority by millions of votes to a candidate other than Trump.

5th February 2024 at 8:20 am
Paul H

And if Trump wins the 2024 Presidential election and closes the southern border there will be a surge of illegal immigrants flooding the US border through Canada. What will our incompetent Prime Minister do then? One can only speculate about the impact this will have on Canada.

5th February 2024 at 10:31 am
Paul Attics

How do reconcile the border crossing record during Trump’s presidency? Did the shut down the border idea just come to him since he has been out of office?

How do you envision migrants flooding the Canada-US border in anywhere near the number that they do on the border with Mexico? Those industrious and desperate people that make the trek through central America will have quite a problem getting the caravan to the northern border, no? Surely, if they could, they would already be coming through Canada if it were easier.

5th February 2024 at 11:54 am
RJKWells

Some may try to use the ongoing political drama south of the border as a distraction from their own performance. We must not let them.

Rather than all this fretting about what may or may not occur in Washington, far better that we continue to remain focused on what’s happening in Ottawa. We have our own house to put back in order.

5th February 2024 at 8:47 am
Lynne

I read all this about Trump’s crazy actions. WE have our very own Clown to deal with. I for one don’t want to put up with our Fool for another 4years.

5th February 2024 at 10:01 am
Paul Attics

Well, there is an easy case to make, on many grounds (ethics, follow through on promises, dishonesty, policy failures, personality), to boot PM Trudeau and his party out of office.

Comparing him to Trump is like comparing a jay-walker to a bank robber.

5th February 2024 at 11:34 am
robert walker

Stop watching MSM and de program yourself – Trump is a Nationalist – who believes in the constitution, will work for his peoples freedom and re kindle the American dream – Biden is a globlist – to them you are the carbon they wnat to reduce and controle your lives.

5th February 2024 at 8:46 am
Paul Attics

Another projection by MAGA, the so-called MSM has made everything, and there is a lot, that Trump has brought on himself is somehow made-up.

What Trump call himself, or his devotees call him, should be irrelevant. Everything else aside, even the good things he did, Trump’s driving role in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election, climaxing in the capital attack, should be disqualifying.

There were plenty of “nationalist” leadership options to Trump, it did not matter, as it is really only about the infallible and donation hungry cult leader.

5th February 2024 at 9:08 am
Kim

Just the fact that Trump gets the political class all in a tizzy makes his win worthwhile.

5th February 2024 at 8:31 am
Paul Attics

Thank you for clearly expressing a real and sad primary motivation for MAGA….and MAGA North.

5th February 2024 at 8:45 am
Michael F

It’s saddening and frankly frightening that US citizens would even consider letting that man hold office again after the events following the 2020 election.

5th February 2024 at 7:10 am
Michael F

The number of down votes on this most basic of comments on that vile human being is disturbing.

5th February 2024 at 2:07 pm
Don S

Better see through the smoke screen, wipe your eyes and worry about what has happened to the US and Canada under Liberal rule and not what will happen in the future if a US President actually does what is best for his own suffering citizens. Maybe we should worry about our own country which is going down the drain. Take us Back PLEASE.

5th February 2024 at 9:41 am
Paul Attics

It is obviously not an either/or situation. A thinking person should be able to be critical of both President Trump and Prime Minister Trudeau. One should be able to not support either based on their records.

5th February 2024 at 10:01 am
Tieme Bergman

I see a very anti Trump article and lots of anti Trump supporters. Looks like The Hub may be another leftie production.

5th February 2024 at 8:31 am
Paul Attics

Back to the Gatewaypundit then it seems for you.

Opposition to Trump has many reasons but the most fundamental is viable democratic practice. Hopefully it is that very practice that finally removes the threat of his Presidency…not to worry, the requests for donations will never end.

I would wager that a majority of Americans would be relieved with either a Haley or Biden presidency.

5th February 2024 at 8:51 am
Gary

Let’s hope the US Justice Department convicts and jails this felon before the 2024 election or the world will have to endure another four years of his nonsense.

5th February 2024 at 7:48 am
David

So jailing the democrats political opponent based on false charges is the answer? that all I need from your opinion. Its BS.

5th February 2024 at 9:15 am
Mike

Biden and son needs their own sitcom but unfortunately Joe won’t remember the lines on the tele scripter. Can not the so called “politicians” find younger potential leader of the “free world” that at least won’t be in their 70’s after the next 8 years.

5th February 2024 at 9:29 am
Chuck C

Look at Trumps record as President… record low unemployment, 7 million new jobs.. mostly in creating manufacturing jobs that were previously done in China. Say what you want about Trump however, there were no wars and best economy in years ( until the plandemic) I believe if elected he would end the war in Ukraine through diplomatic measures very quickly.

You have to ask yourself why has anyone been so persecuted and prosecuted by the liberals, he certainly is the only one that has ever exposed the deep state, and how Washington is in the business of not what’s best for the American people, but rather how much money they can make off the backs of the American people! It is a corrupt system and Trump , like him or hate him, is the man to straighten this out and bring common sense to the country

5th February 2024 at 12:28 pm
Paul Attics

What is your assessment of the current US economy on jobs, unemployment, growth? Similar to what you feel Trump’s was? Spoiler alert, it is better today.

Please elaborate on how you feel Trump would end the Ukraine war via “diplomatic measures”? Trump’s personal relationship with Putin should not be part of your answer.

You have to ask why Trump’s documented actions are ignored by supporters and blamed on persecution. Pick any number of them. How do you excuse him having, sharing, and lying about having those top secret government owned documents? Was that the deep state? Did they make him take thew documents? Did they trick him into denying he had them after being formally asked for them? Did they make him collude with his workers to obscure the attempts to hide them? Did the justice department trick the grand jury into recommended indictment?

Give your head shake. Support him of course but at least acknowledge what he was objectively done.

5th February 2024 at 1:15 pm
Nigel Howcroft

On Ukraine and on other issue (some of which are alluded to in the article) I agree the consequences of a Trump victory will be of the US election will mainly be negative and significant for the world, for Canada and for Americans. And if he is elected it will be partly on the strength of a series of conspiracy theories that have swept the GOP base, the most recent ones connected with Taylor Swift.

On the other hand if he is not elected presumably he and his supporters will not respect the result and they may behave even more badly than they did on January 6.

Either way there is a good chance of unhappy developments following the election, and in either event because an segment of American society has become unhinged in a way that would have been inconceivable pre-pandemic.

5th February 2024 at 8:17 am
Peter Byrne

I think that economically, Americans would prefer to resign as the World’s Police Force. What Trump brings to America is a hope for things to return to “the way they once were” which is mom and apple pie and a Chevy in every garage. Unfortunately I don’t think any president can bring that back. I am not even sure that America could elect a moderate president who is humble enough to listen to his advisors while keeping in touch with the needs and wants of their electorate and the good of the nation as a whole. Such is politics.

5th February 2024 at 8:17 am
Michael F

Since WW2 the US have been the superpower that has controlled the world order to their liking. You think they want to stop now?

5th February 2024 at 7:37 pm
Paul Attics

The loss of Ukraine’s valiant attempt to defend the immoral and illegal attacks by Putin is just one of dozens of really bad outcomes that would result from a Trump second term.

If MAGA were not primarily a personality cult, it would have found an alternate leader to Trump that was not so utterly unsuited for leading any entity with a public interest, let alone the Presidency of the USA. But even without Trump, what does MAGA specially stand for from a policy and principle perspective?

Obviously, very little, other than owning the elites/libs/educated/dems/etc. As real legislative action to remedy the one tragic issue in which trump’s success is based, the southern border, is ready, it is a non-starter with MAGA.

American democracy, such as it is, is certainly at risk, which would likely be very bad for Canada.

5th February 2024 at 7:36 am
Lynne

I think Trump would be bad for Canada only if Trudeau is elected.I think Trump views Trudeau as weak as he is not a business man and just a boy. I think Polievre could deal with Trump as he is capable of straight speak.

5th February 2024 at 10:10 am
Michael F

That is laughable. Trudeau stood up to Trump when he tore up NAFTA because Trudeau knew that was what you have to do with a bully.

5th February 2024 at 7:41 pm
PAul Attics

We already know how President Trump will deal with PM Trudeau and vice versa. How specifically was our PM ineffective in dealing with Trump?…other than lack of apparent “straight talk”.

5th February 2024 at 11:25 am
Gord Edwards

I’m disappointed that the vast majority of the comments have ignored the central thesis of the essay and simply devolved into pro-Trump/anti-Trump commentary. So – what about NATO and global peace and security?

The USA has always been the keystone of NATO. And beyond its NATO leadership has filled, for good and bad, a stabilizing role as the world’s de facto police force. It is worth noting that many have complained about the USA’s ‘imperialism’ while voting for politicians who don’t adequately fund their own national security apparatus or take a proactive role in foreign affairs, preferring low taxes and extensive social programs.

The USA leaving NATO, or stepping back from its historical role in global relations, would be highly destabilizing. As such the claim of Mr Granatstein’s essay is correct. This would be detrimental to the USA as well, but by then it may be too late. You don’t create a stabile geopolitical environment overnight. Bad actors are kept in check due to a consistent approach and a credible threat. A future POTUS couldn’t simply hold a news conference declaring that “The USA is back!” and expect everyone to go back to their corners. The consequences of a second Trump term would indeed be seismic.

But the real question is “Why do we need the USA to protect us?” In the aftermath of WWII the USA was needed to underwrite NATO as most European countries were broke (financially) and largely broken (economically). But it has been almost 80 years. The end of the essay touches on this. Is the problem really the possibility of a second Trump presidency? Or is the problem that too many countries – Canada certainly included – have happily pursued their own best interests while providing largely token support to international peace and security? The last paragraph of the essay points to this but does not really drive the issue home. This should be a learning moment. There is much to complain about in Donald Trump. But, unless you are an American voter, it is really just a distraction from the core issue.

5th February 2024 at 2:25 pm
Michael F

The US uses NATO as a tool for their strategic needs. There is no way they will ever abandon it. It gives them the veneer and cover they need to validate their global ambitions.

5th February 2024 at 3:20 pm
Paul Attics

I agree with all of what you lay out. However, there wouldn’t be a conversation about the possibility of NATO shrinking after a US withdrawal but for President Trump’s consistent musings about it. Hence the article.

I disagree that only US voters should worry about another Trump presidency. Such an event would be bad for the USA, Canada, and the world.

5th February 2024 at 4:33 pm
Gord Edwards

Worry is fine, as long as it results in some sort of positive action. Otherwise it is just anxiety. My point was that few comments on the post contained anything useful and were either 1) I love Trump; or 2) I hate Trump. These bring nothing to the discussion of value.

Trump is a conman and a narcissist. The rest of my opinions of him would involve language not suitable for this platform. But – given that Donald Trump exists and may become the next POTUS – there are really two questions of significance 1) what is the likelihood that he would steer the US away from its role supporting geopolitical stability (which goes beyond NATO)? and 2) What should we do about it?

As we non-Americans can’t impact the US election, we need to look at a what we need to do to be prepared for a world where we can’t hide behind the USA. And a good first step would be acknowledging that we got into this situation of vulnerability to the whims of a US President through our own short sighted decisions.

5th February 2024 at 6:46 pm
Gord Edwards

NATO is ultimately a collection of countries. If the US haven’t been able to get most to spend 2% of GDP on defence I don’t think the idea that they are all puppets of US ambitions is very credible. The treaties which created NATO are one way to exert influence. But the US (and Canada, and others) have formed coalitions for other purposes outside the NATO scope. While those NATO missions have contributed to something the US saw as valuable (such as a stable world order), Canada benefits as well. The US would still have the option of forming coalitions of countries with common interest on a case-by-case basis. Also – I never said the US leaving NATO was a good idea or that Trump was smart. Remember he thought Trump Steaks was a good idea…

5th February 2024 at 6:19 pm
Paul Attics

What global ambitions are those? Keep these prosperity going? To judge the US’s conduct, it should be compared to the likely alternatives in a global hegemon. I will take the USA, warts and all, over the alternatives any day.

5th February 2024 at 4:39 pm
Michael F

Yes absolutely the US actively pursues being the world’s only superpower and dominant economy. They use every means possible to keep the USD as the dominant currency. And they use treaties like NATO to futher their national interests. There is no denying they have engaged in proxy wars in the past to contain the abilities of their enemies and rivals. I think a multi-polar world would be the best outcome for humanity.

5th February 2024 at 4:49 pm
Alfred Napolitano

1) If Trump wins, Ukraine will likely face defeat thanks to administration pressure and the end of American support: I think this highly speculative. If anything can be learned from Trump 1 is that he has a lot of bluster. We will see, but in the event that this is true, the EU, Japan and Canada have the fiscal capacity to fill in for any shortfalls. We must all remember that everything has its limits and the USA has tremendous budget issues, without being able to provide all the social services the EU, Japan and Canada provides its citizens. We should be happy to fill in if it helps the USA reign in their deficit spending.

2) NATO would not likely last long either: Again, highly speculative. But in this case the solution is a slam dunk. Trump only wants all NATO members to live up to their commitments. I doubt Canada and other nations will shut down NATO by refusing to live up to commitments.

3) And Canada? We would be so consumed by efforts to keep our economy running in the face of Trumpian tariffs that we would have little time to think of Europe’s woes: The tariffs proposed will be paid by USA consumers & businesses, similar to the HST we pay on imports. This is if they ever go into effect. But let’s be grown-ups here, on the HUB. Trump 2 presents conservative minded people a massive opportunity. We could use the excuse of Trump 2 to eliminate Dairy Supply Management to betterment of our own citizens. We could seize the opportunity to supply the USA with cheap generic drugs. We could eliminate the HST on imports (like the EU does in their economic trade union) to the betterment of our own citizens. After we throw these low lying fruits at Trump 2 we will be in most-favoured nation status, and for that we could ask for special access to all government contracts including defense spending. We could ask that Keystone XL get started and completed within 2 years and build in a massive poison pill if it doesn’t. Trump 2 would like that and it would be better for our economy.

We need to seize and act on opportunities. I can understand why socialists wouldn’t like what I am proposing, but it is extremely worrying, more that Trump 2, if conservatives in Canada wouldn’t want to turn Trump 2 into an opportunity.

5th February 2024 at 2:10 pm
Paul Attics

All great points to consider. Trump 2, as you put it, could very well be a catalyst for big changes in Canada. Certainly a positive risk.

5th February 2024 at 4:45 pm
Alfred Napolitano

Thank you! Most people think I’m crazy to look at change as an opportunity instead of in fear!

5th February 2024 at 10:22 pm
Richard Courtemanche

How anyone would not want to urgently replace Democratic madness is beyond comprehension. Trump may not be the ideal president, but he has the respect of some countries of concern, e.g. North Korea.

5th February 2024 at 9:43 am
Paul Attics

Just sincerely read and consider the comments of the people that served in his cabinet in key military and foreign relations capacities. The sheer number of them that are unequivocal about his unsuitableness for the Presidency should be alarming to those that prefer global peace and prosperity.

Trump is seen by many of them as someone driven entirely by short-term self-interest, among many other alarming criticisms. Foreign adversaries would celebrate a Trump second term. Not because they respect him, but rather because he is harmful to America and the wider “West”, as well as subject to all manner of corruption in and influence.

5th February 2024 at 9:55 am
Paul Attics

MAGA North seems well represented in The Hub consumers/supporters.

It is extremely difficult to engage in “vigorous debate among competing visions of Canada’s future rooted in the ideals of pluralism, individual choice, broad-based opportunity and conducted with civility and substance” with Trump supporters on the topic of Trump, or any issue on which Trump has declared his preference of the moment.

I’ve tried broadly, and with personal friends. I was always open to the good things that Trump did as President. I was also open to Trump’s genius as an entertainer (engaging) and leader (getting people to follow).

Alas, there just is no willingness of followers to acknowledge very basic facts about what has objectively occurred, largely because so much of it is near impossible to defend.

It is sad, as societal improvement by way of debate with “civility and substance” is impossible when large groups of citizens that cannot agree on rock bottom reality.

5th February 2024 at 9:26 am
Thor Ragnorson

Liberals are funny. They think their proselytizing babble gab is something everyone wants to waste their time on. Save the hysterical nonsense for your shrink.

5th February 2024 at 10:24 am
Paul Attics

Seems like you are here for affirmation and, ostensibly, laughs, versus challenge. Re-read the mission statement of The Hub.

I would accept the label liberal. However, I am for the record, not a Liberal, nor any other party affiliation. Unlike you perhaps, I did not vote for PM Trudeau’s party in any federal election.

You know, any substantial aspects of Trump’s goals, are supportable, and even achievable, without Trump. Criticism of Trump is not defacto criticism of you. It only is if one has identified with him like one would to their religious faith or a favorite sports team.

Sermon over.

5th February 2024 at 11:21 am
Michael F

Sorry we use big words bro.

5th February 2024 at 7:43 pm
David

Appears The Hub is left leaning BS proaganda as well. GOOD BYE.

5th February 2024 at 9:19 am
Paul Attics

It is obvious and “nearly self-acknowledged” in the mission that The Hub is a conservative/right-of-center (choose your preferred term, they are all vague) perspective publication, although committed to a reasonable view of reality .

This one opinion article is quite tame in its criticism of Trump. What specifically is the propaganda that makes you want to leave in an apparent huff?…if you are not gone already of course. Then perhaps someone else with more fortitude can provide some insight.

5th February 2024 at 9:45 am
Michael F

Your premise is entirely laughable.

5th February 2024 at 2:10 pm
Chuck C

The successful election of Trump and Poilievre
Will help restore the common sense back to our countries. Trump is brash but he has been the only US president in recent history to not have any wars during his presidential term.
The globalist agenda of the WHO, CDC,CHA and WEF are not our friends nor acting in our best interests. They have been taken over by radical socialists who dont know a man from a woman or what is best for our health and planet.
Neither the USA or Canada can continue down the disastrous economic path and spending that has occurred under these liberal policies. The fact that we spend more on interest cost on our debt then we do on healthcare is a shocking statistic. Canada is a country of 40 million people has Approximately $5 billion a month in interest cost alone on our national debt, which Trudeau has doubled in the last eight years. We need to stop the insanity. This spending is unsustainable.

5th February 2024 at 12:20 pm
Paul Attics

Labelling Trump’s downside as being brash is laughable understatement. His tendency to avoid military intervention, let alone war, was a positive.

Chronic debt accumulation has been a bipartisan problem in both countries. In the spirit of common sense, how do you reconcile the US debt increase during the Trump administration with the claim that it was only under liberal policies?

Canada is a different story. The Trudeau admin spending is clearly chronically out of whack with the revenue. Harper’s government made a good faith effort at fiscal balance (and almost got there). During the COVID response, this is understandable, however, that was two plus years ago, and is, as the OP asserts, unsustainable.

5th February 2024 at 1:04 pm
William

I was looking for Media that is not like the legacy/msm. Looks like this is not it.
I will keep looking.

5th February 2024 at 9:34 am
A. Chezzi

Just how friendly would a Poilievre government be towards Trump? They share many of the same ideas of the Republican party which supports Trump. Social programs, which Poilievre abhors, would be the first to feel the axe. Freedoms, which we now have, would be curtailed as the Republicans are doing in the U S. Poilievre’s ideas were formed by conservative philosophers who believe that there is no such concept as society. He follows the lead of Manning, Klein, Harper, all very strong individualists but whose individualism means what they see as good and right. They believe in small government until they use big government to insure that their agenda is followed. We see that happening in Alberta, Saskatchewan, New Brunswick. They use the Not With Standing Clause to hammer opposition. While they call for people to decide what is good for themselves, they deny people the right to decide what is good for themselves if it goes against their social idea of right and wrong. I doubt any parent who supports trans gender surgery for a child would have the opportunity to have it. It is not about parental rights. It is about appeasing the radical right. When leaders are not genuine, expect trouble.

5th February 2024 at 9:32 am
Chuck C

You think that we have free speech or a free society in Canada under Trudeau?? Omg
Look at his censorship bills, his illegal invocation of the emergency measures act, his censorship of news that we can not share on the Internet.
Anyone who speaks out against Trudeau is locked up and persecuted for basically stating their own opinion. When have you ever known in our history that free speech was under so much attack?

5th February 2024 at 12:33 pm
Michael F

Please provide specific examples of the people who have been locked up.

5th February 2024 at 2:12 pm
Albert

Trump is the only way to get rid of the far-Left Woke! Democrats have tried how many times to silence 🤫 him and failed! They don’t like him cause he tells the truth! And the only President EVER to keep his promises to the people! God bless him.

5th February 2024 at 11:47 am
Paul Attics

If you are trolling, you may want to be a little more subtle.
If you are sincere, congrats on a succinct epitome of MAGA proclamation!

I guarantee you if there is a God, Trump would not be receiving any blessings based on the WWJD measure of being a good person and Christian. Feel free to explain otherwise…

5th February 2024 at 12:19 pm
Wendy Paterson

Leave the fund alone it will be needed for future seniors. People on pensions aren’t getting enough to live on in 2024….what will it be like in the future.

5th February 2024 at 11:23 am
Alain Boulet

L’élection de Donald Trump est certes prévisible (en tout respect, est-ce que M. Biden pourra atteindre le 5 novembre 2024: il me semble perdre de plus en plus ses moyens, avoir de plus en plus de difficulté à s’exprimer, etc).
En ces temps troublés de guerres réelles (Ukraine et Palestine) et larvées (Yémen, Iran, etc) est-ce l’image qu’on veut avoir “d’un commandant en chef” de la nation la plus armée de la planète?
Dans un cas comme dans l’autre, la perspective fait peur: un “narcissique égocentrique, pervers et inculte” qui est incapable de se concentrer plus de 5-10 minutes (de nombreux livres de ses principaux collaborateurs et supporters du premier mandat en font largement état) ou un “bon grand-père vieillissant et bienveillant mais qui perd ses moyens à vue d’œil: il est 4 ans plus vieux que Donald Trump mais, pour des raisons que j’ignorent, il me semble beaucoup moins vigoureux! Ma foi quand il marche je me demande s’il ne va pas perdre l’équilibre, quand il monte des marches, j’espère qu’il ne tombera pas comme ça lui est arrivé en montant les marches de l’escalier menant à Air Force One. Quand il parle ça me semble de plus en plus difficile (ton, articulation, l’organisation, etc). Je ne suis pas médecin, et on peut bien me rassurer sur son état de santé général, mais je ne suis pas rassuré de le voir devant les XI Jinping, les Vladimir Poutine ou autres dictateurs de ce monde en 2024!
Je suis inquiet pour le début de 2025 autant par une victoire de Donald Trump (et ses conséquences appréhendées fondées sur un premier mandat de 4 ans suivi de 4 ans de poursuites judiciaires de toutes sortes, du refus d’accepter sa défaite de 2020 et de la vendetta qu’il promet dans les premiers 24 heures de son second mandat) ou par une défaite de ce dernier: à cause de mes réserves face à un M.Biden de plus en plus diminué mais aussi et surtout a cause des conséquences d’une seconde défaite de suite de Trump qui n’acceptera toujours pas et pour lequel il promet déjà un chaos indescriptible!
Nous n’avons qu’à nous rappeler le chaos historique de janvier 2021 au Capitole: jamais nous n’aurions pu imaginer un tel scénario dans “l’Athenes moderne de la démocratie” mais cela s’est produit. On peut facilement se projeter en janvier 2025 avec une défaite de Donald Trump et les promesses de chaos qu’il fait déjà planées!
Dans un cas de figure comme dans l’autre, il me semble que le monde (au sens large) serait perdant. Est-ce que ce sera la poursuite “du déclin de l’empire américain”, film du cinéaste québécois Denys Arcand en 1986 (il y a presque déjà 40 ans…) ?
Le sort du Canada étant encore tellement lié à celui de notre voisin du Sud, comment nier notre propre éventuel déclin face à l’éventualité de la poursuite du déclin des USA? Si on tient compte de la baisse de l’influence du Canada au niveau mondial, des difficultés que nous avons de plus en plus avec la Chine, l’Inde ce n’est pas rassurant pour mes enfants et petits-enfants…
Malgré cela, le Canada demeure toujours un pays convoité par plusieurs immigrants à cause de sa démocratie, de sa sécurité et autres.

5th February 2024 at 8:18 am