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Ukraine needs our support now more than ever

The February 24 anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Ukrainians' inspiring resistance is an opportunity to reassess and reaffirm the importance of Canada's commitment to Ukraine—and a more secure Canada.

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T Poetschke

After a long life studying Canadian society, reading hundreds of books, being personally involved in making federal policy happen, sadly I realize that I more and more often do not understand the political thoughts, feelings and behaviours of many Canadians. To me, the need to support Ukraine is so blindingly obvious, even without the arguably very convincing explanations provided by Alexander Dalziel, that I cannot, for the life of me understand how as many as 25% of our population would believe we are doing too much. Are they joking? If not, I imagine the reason for these mystifying attitudes must be that they lack of compassion and good judgement. Perhaps they are consumed by selfishness? Maybe I am wrong. I hope so, but the inexplicable attitudes of many Canadians at times like this scares me more than Putin does. Him, we understand, and he does not, unlike Canadians, claim to be “nice”.

23rd February 2024 at 9:58 am
Jo wearing

I agree we should be supporting Ukraine against this aggression. Once it is clear that the west does not support maintaining international boundaries the future is bleak. Canada needs to step up and at least meet the 2 percent of GDP to defense. Our Arctic is open to Russian aggression.

23rd February 2024 at 9:03 am
Paul Attics

The public is fickle. Human beings lose interest, even in the big things. Petty politics can muddy the waters. There is also plenty of subtle propaganda trying to turn Western populations from supporters to indifferent.

It is up to leaders to lead. Our Federal leaders should be regularly speaking with one voice on the baseline need of this conflict:
– It is just that Ukraine defeats the illegal and brutal aggression.
– Money spent now will be much less than money required should Russia win.
– It is in Canada’s interest that Ukraine prevail.

The parties can debate specifics of course but they should not politicize any aspect of our support.

23rd February 2024 at 7:33 am
STEVE J CHIPMAN

I fully support providing more aid to Ukraine for the simple fact that it is in our interest to oppose injustice and criminals like Putin . Our parents/grandparents came to the aid of Europe when the Nazis invaded and we should do the same for Ukraine. If we fail to do so what do we stand for?

23rd February 2024 at 10:51 am
Lynda Thivierge

I think Canada should do more, much more. A La Presse survey of its readers conducted this week showed that 72% think Canadian military aid should be increased. There has been talk of seizing frozen Russian central bank assets, Canada should seize any of the 300 billion that it has, give that to Ukraine. I follow Ukraine news every day because I think it is a serious issue for European security and for western democracy in general. I might say that I get my news from various reputable sources both nationally and internationally. I think we should also commemorate Navalny’s death – I sent a letter to the Globe & Mail suggesting we change the name of Charlotte street in Ottawa to Navalny street. Very small but symbolic gesture in support of opponents to Putin inside and outside Russia. Canada should stand up and do what it can before it is too late. It is in our interest to do something now, not too little, too late

23rd February 2024 at 9:32 am
Alfred Napolitano

I am all for support Ukraine. I will go further than the word “support”. I support spending 1/9 of what the USA does for Ukaraine so far. That would be tripling our expenditures. I support spending AT LEAST 2% of GDP on defence. I support that if it means reduction of entitlement spending. How may Canadians that “support” the Ukraine feel like I do? The Leger poll of last week gives a clue. When asked about money, only 16% favoured spending more. The poll was filled with all kinds of ok numbers for soft support, but when it comes to hard support, Canada is united.

Also, what does the lack of conservative support for a free trade update have to do with military suppprt? And if you are going to drag that into the conversation, good reporting would also tell the flip side. The conservative motion to eliminate the ADDED language was rejected. That way everyone knows the whole story. In other words, the conservatives would have voted yes if the wording was dropped. Since this passed anyway, this isn’t about the conservatives not wanting to support Ukraine to the effect of killing the deal. Please be better.

23rd February 2024 at 10:21 am
Lauraine

The trade agreement with Ukraine simply contained words carbon tax (which Ukraine has implemented years ago) that set off the CPC into its childish trantrum. We need adults running our country from the Feds throughout the Provinces. If we do not put the brakes on Putin, we will not have a country.

23rd February 2024 at 1:57 pm
Alfred Napolitano

The conservatives are not running the country and antics like this may keep people from voting for them (but the polls suggest otherwise). The point is, the conservatives would in no way be more wishy washy than the liberals and not wanting a carbon tax hurdle put on a country that is literally on its knees in a war time effort is not the same as lack of support for the military of the Ukraine. Totally different issue. Conflating it is misleading.

24th February 2024 at 7:27 am
Darrell Debbie

No they don’t. They need a negotiated peace settlement with Russia while there are still men left in Ukraine. They are now training 17 year olds to go to the front. The 20-40 year olds are all wounded or dead or have fled the country and it makes no sense to send the older ones. Stop sending our tax money to a corrupt country when we are in debt and Canadians are suffering from inflation. I fail to see how sending more money and armaments to Ukraine could possibly end with a “more secure Canada”. Ukraine is not, and should never become, a part of NATO. It is a foreign war which should have and could have ended 2 years ago but for Biden’s and Johnson’s meddling. Thousands of young men are dead and their deaths are on the heads of Biden, Johnson and Zelensky.

23rd February 2024 at 10:15 am
Michael F

Would you have said the same thing about fascism in the 1930s? Appeasing Putin is the way to go? Because we all know how well that worked in the late 1930s.

23rd February 2024 at 12:48 pm
Darrell Debbie

No, I wouldn’t have. The situation is not the same. The people in the Donbas region are mostly Russian speaking and voted yes to be a part of Russia again. I am not appeasing Putin. He is a villain, I am saying they should negotiate a peaceful settlement while there are still some young male Ukrainians left.

23rd February 2024 at 5:30 pm
LJ

Ukrainians wouldn’t need our support if the corrupt dictator Zelenskyy would give the money to his people instead of to himself. Get rid of Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian people will live in a better world. People can you not see that Zelinskyy and Biden do not want the war to end. They are making millions off of this war.

23rd February 2024 at 11:03 am
Ron mcbride

Ukraine a centre for human trafficking thats why Putin went there to blow up the breeding farms ,i,m really surprised the this news is so out of touch they would print false statements ,i have enjoyed the hub before now i,m wondering ?

23rd February 2024 at 7:39 am
Michael F

Sounds like something straight out of a feverish QAnon youtube video. Give your head a shake man.

23rd February 2024 at 12:28 pm
Darrell Debbie

I don’t know anything about breeding farms in Ukraine but I do not believe anything the main stream media says without checking several sources. CBC, CTV, CNN, MSNBC etc. are all basically propaganda for the government and slanted to the left.

23rd February 2024 at 5:35 pm
Xiaoming Guo

At what cost are we ready to commit ourselves to the Ukraine War? As far as I can see, the Ukraine War is already a quagmire, a black hole to suck infinite aid. Have our think tanks ever evaluated our commitment to the NATO occupation of Afghanistan for 20 years? What’s the result of that? Does our commitment help the democracy and human rights in Afghanistan? We always expect that think-thanks can offer the public a deeper understanding of reality, not to advocate foreign policies without examining their effectiveness. Should Canada put its economy down into a drain for a quagmire of war?

23rd February 2024 at 11:08 am
Coxy

Great article. Mr. Mcbride, I’m certain you are probably not a fan of PM Trudeau and likely feel he’s the worst type of authoritarian driving Canadians apart. He’s kind of like Putin I’m sure in your view and as a result you would think it appropriate if this terrible regime run out of Ottawa, such a nasty place that even PM Trudeau caused the canal to stay closed during most of his time in office, should invade Montreal because it is home-base, or was, to Porn Hub. In all seriousness now, the extreme absurdity of echo chamber propaganda coming from Tucker Carlson or crazy Wokeians destroying University academic freedom is what is at stake in Ukraine. Our Nov 11 celebrations about those who fought for and built our great liberal democratic western civilization matter if Russia is allowed to run over Ukraine. Yes, leaders kill and countries kill according to our most absurd sycophants today but lines must be drawn and Ukraine is this line for our ability to have open and free critical discussions about government policy and behavior. It is not about oil or trade. It is about defending liberal democratic constitutional law governance from those who want to govern like its 1147. These types of people live here too and we must stand firm against leaders or parties that tolerate considerations of authoritarian governments. They grow like cancer. In Europe, next will be Lithuania, Czec, Slovakia, Hungary, and Poland and then suddenly Finland is a threat to Russia’s ancient Rus empire and origins. Give a fascist or Leninist and inch, they will take try to take it all and never give it back.

23rd February 2024 at 9:41 am
Gary Oxenforth

The whole democratic world has to get behind Ukraine with money and military equipment.Putin must not be allowed to win.The same goes for Israel against Hamas and Iral.

23rd February 2024 at 3:03 pm
Michael F

So you’re pro indiscriminate bombing of women and children in Gaza? The IDF have already dropped more bombs on Gaza than the US dropped on Germany in WW2. This is no longer self-defence, it’s ethnic cleansing.

23rd February 2024 at 3:46 pm
Kim

So you support terrorists. We don’t want your kind in Canada.

23rd February 2024 at 7:44 pm
Michael F

It is absolutely shameful Poilievre played politcs with support for Ukraine with an absolutely idiotic, baseless claim the treaty forced a carbon tax on Ukraine. Utter nonsense and another case of him playing to his il-informed base for cheap political points.

23rd February 2024 at 12:23 pm
Michael F

*ill-informed

23rd February 2024 at 12:26 pm
Cindy

The funding for Ukraine needs to stop. All we are doing is making zelenskyy rich. Russia and Ukraine already had an agreement, which Boris Johnson stopped.
US blew up the Nordstream pipeline. This war was not started by Putin. It was started in 2014 when Crimea wanted to join Russia.
USA stuck their nose in where it didn’t belong.
Therefore war ensued, because of USA.
Ukraine is a money laundering center, a child trafficking center and have gain of function labs.
We are funding Nazi criminals.

24th February 2024 at 12:17 pm
Maryana Apel

Very poorly informed.

23rd February 2024 at 12:30 pm